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== Hair ==
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| name = Loly
 
| english =
 
| kanji = ロリ
 
| romanji = Rori
 
| other =
 
| image name = Loly.jpg
 
| image size = 290px
 
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{{Infobox/Character/Personal
 
| birthdate =
 
| age =
 
| height =
 
| weight =
 
| gender = Female
 
| species = [[Arrancar]]
 
| blood type =
 
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{{Infobox/Character/Loyalty
 
| partner = [[Menoly]]
 
| previous partner =
 
| affiliation = [[Sōsuke Aizen]]'s Army
 
| previous affiliation =
 
| team = [[Números]]
 
| previous team =
 
| occupation = Arrancar
 
| previous occupation =
 
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| title = [[Zanpakutō]]
 
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*[[Zanpakutō#Resurrección|Resurrección]]: Escolopendra
 
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{{Infobox/Character/Voice
 
| japanese = Hana Takeda
 
| english = Colleen O'Shaughnessey
 
| spanish =
 
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{{Infobox/Character/Appears
 
| manga debut = [[Baron's Lecture Full-Course|Volume 28, Chapter 249]]
 
| anime debut = [[Episode 150]]
 
| appears in = Manga and Anime
 
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{{translation|'''Loly'''|ロリ|Rori}} is an [[Arrancar]] in Sōsuke Aizen's army. She, along with [[Menoly]], was ordered to bring [[Orihime Inoue]] to [[Sōsuke Aizen|Aizen]] when he wanted to show her the [[Hōgyoku]]. She develops a deep hatred towards the captured Human girl, and clearly has an intention to kill her, even if that means going against Aizen's orders.
 
   
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could someone mention that in the last episode that when he remove the wig a single strand of hair appeared, showing that he is '''''not''''' bald and does shave his head [[User:Fawcettp|Fawcettp]] 14:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Character Outline==
 
Loly is a teenage-looking, female Arrancar with long, pigtailed black hair, a slender build, and light-pink eyes. The remnants of her mask cover her left eye, and has teeth still connected to it, though the hair ties might also be part of her mask fragments as the left one seems to connect to the eyepiece on her left temple. Loly's uniform fits her name, including a white, schoolgirl-themed skirt, white half-sleeves worn from the elbows down to the wrists, and what appears to be thigh-length black-colored, white-outlined boots. She also wears a white-colored, black-outlined shirt that ties to her neck, reveals a fair portion of her stomach and breasts, reveals her arms from the shoulders down to the elbows, and not much else except material to barely cover her chest.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 249, page 13</ref>
 
   
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I thought that the single strand of hair was left over from the wig, as Yumichika had glued it to his head and he had to rip it off.
She seems infatuated with Aizen, as shown by her anger at Aizen's interest in Orihime.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 249, page 14</ref> She also seems to be very impulsive and easily-angered, seen when she almost beats Orihime to death after she asked her to leave her room (and Menoly tried to stop her from "taking it too far", but could not stop her).<ref>''Bleach'' anime; Episode 162</ref><ref> ''Bleach'' manga; Chapters 272-274</ref>
 
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Also, wasn't that a filler episode?
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They don't fully count as facts, do they?
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[[User:Akami.40|Akami.40]] 14:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
   
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Fillers are included as just as much as anything else manga and anime or sources and count toward the series canon. Anything outside of those two mediums such as movies, and games are not considered facts but are included on the site more commonly under appearance in other media.[[User:Salubri|Salubri]] 14:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Plot==
 
===Hueco Mundo arc===
 
She is first seen as being assigned to escort Orihime to Aizen's room along with Menoly. With Aizen pleased, he dismisses them, however the two seem hesitant as they think leaving him alone with her might be dangerous with her powers (though this might just be a front for her concerns for herself and Aizen). Aizen becomes somewhat annoyed, and the two apologize and leave the room angered and jealous of Orihime, while [[Ulquiorra Cifer|Ulquiorra]] watches.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 249, pages 13-14</ref>
 
   
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Anime Filler is not canon, no matter what the people who run this wiki want us to believe. Only the manga is canon. There are too many discrepancies between the anime and the manga for both to be canon, and since the manga is the original source, only it is canon. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that, or why you admins feel the need to try to shove obviously non-canon anime material down our throats as canon. Very few people who know about Bleach agree with saying that Anime filler is canon, which is one of the main reasons that a lot of people on respected Bleach forums the internet over don't consider this wiki to be a valid source of information regarding Bleach. Any site that considers Amagai to be a canon captain, and lists Seigen Suzunami in their list of captains is a joke. I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but really, why do you cling to the preposterous notion that anything other than the manga is canon? It just makes this wiki look bad in the eyes of most Bleach fans. It wouldn't take that much work to just have a little message on non-manga pages that says "This material is not in the manga,and is considered non-canon by most Bleach fans". I don't understand why you think it's a good idea to continue this line of reasoning when it's obvious to anyone who knows Bleach that anime filler is not canon. It's infuriating, and inexplicable to me that you refuse to change in this regard, and it's the reason that I tell people not to use this site as a source. Saying that anime filler is canon puts the accuracy of all of the information here in doubt. [[User:CorpusDei|CorpusDei]] 05:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
Some time later, when Orihime in her room notices that most of her friends who have come to rescue her from [[Las Noches]] are in peril, the two enter due to no one else being around. Before Orihime could ask why they are there, the two comment on the room and how nice it looks, acting somewhat friendly and unfocused. They get around however to Aizen and his interest in Orihime and how he must really like her, then how everyone of her friends came just to save "their princess", commenting on her popularity. After this, Loly starts berating Orihime, saying how she must think very highly of herself. Orihime denies this as she is forced to one of the walls but Loly does not believe her and chastises this to Menoly. After this, she starts to get violent, pulling Orihime by the hair to throw her to the floor. She then tells her to not get cocky about herself and to stay away from Aizen, putting her foot on her head now. The two then decide to kick her face until she cries, while laughing. In the manga, Loly planned to tear off Orihime's fingernails instead of kicking her face.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 272</ref><ref>''Bleach'' anime; Episode 162</ref>
 
   
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This is a prime example of someone not knowing what they are talking about. No one ever said that anime was the main source but its where the good pictures come from its where the coloration for the characters come from its where anything that can be visually discernible comes from. Manga is the official canon as its written and drawn by Kubo but anime has its position as a secondary source for the previous reasons as well as the fact that it follows most the manga with the exception of filler arcs which aren't canon at all. Why your even a member of this wiki i dont understand as your not basing any of your argument on facts that can be shown on this site. No one ever said amagai was a manga based captain and in fact it clearly states in anime only. Segian is listed as a captain in game only. If these so called respected forums and other places on the internet are so informative it would be funny considering i have never seen not one one site that has one iota of informative bit of info on bleach. You interject yourself into a situational conversation, and think you know what your talking about. What i was referring to is that the information on fillers are placed in the site just as all things related to bleach but it does not constitute actual canon. So know what your talking about on and off the site as you seem inclined to express your one sided and uninformed opinion about stuff you dont know about and if it continues to be a problem do us all a favor and leave. Go back to your respected forums where you can speculate your fan fiction and debate to depth with no capability of actual source reference. Im quite pissed off that you would have the nerve to get on here and talk about this site as if what your saying made any sense or possessed any fact when you apparently don't look into any of what you seem to think you know.[[User:Salubri|Salubri]] 07:30, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
A little bit later, Orihime is able to get out of the two Arrancar's grasp and runs for the door, only to have Loly blow it off with a [[Arrancar#Powers|Bala]]. Mockingly saying she was just trying to get the door for her, she notices that Orihime looks like she wants to say something and tells her to say it. When she says that if they have no business with her, they should leave however, the two become surprised. Loly then bends down to Orihime's level, thinking she is once again being high-minded of herself and asks who she thinks she is calmly. When she offers up no answer, she simply smirks and tells [[Menoly]] to "''do it''". After this Menoly is seen holding a [[Cero]] in her hand and Loly then proceeds to tell Orihime how her Cero sometimes "fires off randomly at times" and that she could be killed by this anytime, asking her if she is scared. Orihime stays silently unaffected however and angers Loly because of this, who raises her up by the neck. Orihime makes her let go however and Loly then slaps her to the floor, then grabs her by the hair once more. Menoly becomes reluctant about how far Loly is going now and tries to talk her out of it. Loly becomes enraged at Orihime, who is still giving a emotionless expression and tells her to stop it immediately, and even silences Menoly about her concerns, telling her to leave if she is chickening out.<ref>''Bleach'' anime; Episode 162. These details only occur in the anime</ref>
 
   
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The words canon and filler never appear on any page of this wiki. In your above message you said "Fillers...count towards the series canon". I rest my case. You can be self righteous about how important you think this wiki is all you want, the fact is that until you make a clear distinction between canon and filler, this site is of dubious trustworthiness. [[User:CorpusDei|CorpusDei]] 15:36, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
At this time though, an explosion occurs through one of the room's doors, which turns out to be [[Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez|Grimmjow]]'s doing. When Grimmjow comments on how no one was guarding the room and how both of them were in it, Loly rudely questions his being there. Grimmjow brushes Loly away (acting like a punch to her) and then deals with Menoly who charges him with her Cero. He grabs her Cero, then adds his own, blasting her top half away. As Loly begins saying how he is going to be in trouble with [[Sōsuke Aizen]] for this, he messes with her shortly, making her panic and say she will not tell anyone if he does not kill her. Grimmjow then proceeds to stomp on her, saying she is an idiot for thinking Aizen cares about her at all. After this, he ripped her leg off with his hand. This is omitted from the anime adaptation.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 273</ref>
 
   
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Surely though, a single joke from a non-manga filler can hardly be used as proof that Ikakku shaves/is bald. Seems to me to be a bit iffy. [[User:BollyW|BollyW]] 07:57, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
Awhile later, Menoly wakes up intact and wonders how she could still be alive. Loly, who is up against a wall bent over, says Orihime did it and remembers when she healed her instead of her beat up face, to which Loly questions and when no response was given, hits her. As she is healed, she becomes incredibly frightened by this unknown power and begins to think Orihime is a monster.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 274</ref> She and Menoly were later seen still in Orihime's destroyed room when Ulquiorra walked in, demanding to know who was responsible. The two blame Grimmjow, resulting in Ulquiorra having a (rather short) battle with the Sexta Espada.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 277</ref>
 
   
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Oh this is just ridiculous. His description stays a bald. He obviously is, cause every time someone even mentions the word bald he flies off the handle. [[User:Minato88|Minato88]] 18:19, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
===Fake Karakura Town arc===
 
[[File:Loly lives!.jpg|thumb|190px|Loly is saved by Uryū]]
 
She is next seen climbing a set of stairs, alongside Menoly, claiming that "this is their only chance to drag Orihime down". Her facial expressions seem to indicate that she is almost frightened, despite her determination.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 341</ref> She and Menoly make their move during [[Ichigo Kurosaki]]'s battle with [[Ulquiorra Cifer]] and begin to torture Orihime again by ripping her clothes and such. Ichigo notices this and goes after them, but Loly threatens to rip out Orihime's eye, but this only angers Ichigo as he begins charging a [[Getsuga Tenshō]]. Ulquiorra saves her, though, he claims that he is not helping her. They are all interrupted by the sudden arrival of [[Yammy Riyalgo]].<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 342</ref> After being denied help by Ulquiorra, Yammy notices them and knocks Menoly into a wall. Loly then pulls out her [[Zanpakutō]] and slightly cuts Yammy's hand before he could even lay a finger on her. Yammy gets quite surprised that she took out her Zanpakutō. She tries to retaliate and releases her Zanpakutō, yelling out that she'll kill both Yammy and Ulquiorra, but Yammy pounds her into the ground, incapacitating her. He then rams her through the wall presumably killing her in the process and drops her body below. However, it is later revealed that [[Uryū Ishida]] saved her by pinning her to the wall of the tower with an arrow.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Volume 40</ref><ref>''Bleach'' anime; Episode 268, omake</ref>
 
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The strand of hair was from the wig, which had been glued to his head. He's bald. Ranting and raving about filler aside thats the end of it.
==Powers & Abilities==
 
It may seem that Loly's strength and powers is as strong as an average [[Números|Número]], or perhaps even stronger. She is at least strong enough to make a small cut through Yammy's skin in her unreleased state, and cutting through the Hierro of even the Tenth Espada would be difficult.
 
   
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But on the rants of canon or non-canon. No abilities or traits shown in the filler arcs are any different from how a character normally behaves in the non-filler arcs of the anime. Ichigo didn't use any abilities he didn't already show or hint at in the other arcs in the New Captain, Zanpakto Unknown Tales arcs. So maybe a couple of characters are invented and plotline is made up, but no one counts that as canon anyway. {{unsigned|Licourtrix|02:12, December 8, 2009}}
'''[[Bala]]''': This technique is actually strong. She was shown using it while she was torturing [[Orihime Inoue]] when she blasted her door claiming that she was "getting the door for her".
 
   
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OK this is ridiculous. Seriously it was Anime-Only. He always gets mad when anyone says anything about his baldness and it WAS ONE ONE!! hair. I am marking this discussion closed. No way is it being changed. If u want to make a note below asking to put it in the Trivia, but I would call that junk and i'm sure others here would as well. [[User:Minato88|<span style="color: #FFD700;">'''Minato'''</span>]] 02:19, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
===Zanpakutō===
 
[[Image:Loly zanpakuto.jpg|thumb|190px|right|Loly's Zanpakutō]]
 
{{translation|'''Escolopendra'''|百刺毒娼 (エスコロペンドラ)|Esukoropendora|Spanish for "''Centipede''", Japanese for "''100 Stings of the Toxic Harlot''"}}: Loly's Zanpakutō is a small dagger in its sealed state, which has a resemblance to a ''[[Wikipedia:Tantō|tantō]]''<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 343, page 6</ref>
 
   
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==Trivia section clean-up==
[[Image:Loly release.jpg|thumb|190px|right|Loly's Resurrección, Escolopendra.]]
 
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*'''[[Resurrección]]''': It's release command is {{translation|'''Poison'''|毒せ|dokuse}}.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 343, page 7</ref> In her released state she takes on the form of a centipede-like creature. Her mask grows and covers both of her cheeks. She grows armor over her legs, arms, breast and the neck. Her arms take the form of two long centipede like creatures. They have the body of a centipede without the head.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 343, page 8</ref>
 
   
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:'''Resurrección Special Ability:''' Anything she touches in this form is instantly eroded away by the poison that drips from her arms.<ref>''Bleach'' manga; Chapter 343, page 9</ref>
 
   
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*Ikkaku does not wish to have anyone know of his Bankai, as he wishes to fight and die under Kenpachi's command. He knows that if anyone were to know of his Bankai, he would most likely be promoted to Captain, and thus, no longer be under Kenpachi's command.
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*The only ones who have seen Ikkaku's Bankai are [[Yumichika Ayasegawa]], Keigo Asano, possibly [[Renji Abarai]], and [[Tetsuzaemon Iba]], who reprimands Ikkaku for not using his Bankai to complete his mission during the Battle of Karakura. Captain [[Sajin Komamura]] told Iba not to worry after his conversation about Bankai, saying, "My senses seem to be failing me today," implying that he heard them talking about Ikkaku's Bankai, but would not acknowledge it. In the second movie, ''[[Bleach: The DiamondDust Rebellion]]'', [[Tōshirō Hitsugaya]] and [[Rangiku Matsumoto]] also see Ikkaku use his Bankai. However, this is not to be considered canonical, at least until [[The Arrancar Saga|the current story arc ends]]. In a similar vein, during the [[Zanpakutō Unknown Tales arc]] , [[Soifon]], [[Shunsui Kyōraku]], [[Jushiro Ukitake]] and [[Ichigo Kurosaki]] witness his Zanpakutō spirit using it as well, though whether they know it is his Bankai is not yet known.
==Quotes==
 
*"''What is she... What... She's... She's... Like a monster...!?''"
 
*"''I didn't come here so you could kill me! Yammy!"''
 
*''"In fact, I'm gonna kill both you and Ulquiorra!"''
 
   
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*Ikkaku has only been shown using Bankai one time within the manga and anime; it is only shown once again in the second movie ([[Bleach: The DiamondDust Rebellion]]), and then used by Hōzukimaru himself in the Zanpakutō Unknown Tales Arc.
   
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*The two losses Ikkaku has suffered in battle are a direct result of his hesitation to release his Bankai, as seen during his battle against Ichigo and Poww.
==References==
 
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*Ikkaku is also the only member of the 11th Division known to achieve Bankai, as even his Captain, [[Kenpachi Zaraki]] has not yet achieved it (nor even knows his sword's name). Yachiru is never shown using her sword so the extent of her abilities are unknown.
==Navigation==
 
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*During episode 63 of the series, when Ichigo decides to have another friendly fight with Ikkaku (with wooden swords), there is a scar that runs down the left side of Ikkaku's chest. This was a serious injury caused by Ichigo during their battle, and since then, it has never fully healed. This scar is then shown in the rest of his appearances where he is bare-chested, including but not limited to his fight with Edrad Liones, when he uses his Bankai, and episode 228. It even appears in most video games that feature his Bankai. This makes him the first character to obtain a permanent scar from a fight with Ichigo, the second being [[Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez]].
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Can anyone please explain to me, how ANY of the above triva is anything but junk? The a lot of it is should be obvious from reading the article and the rest are of limited appeal at best. I am not even happy with the two trivia I left on his page! Can't anyone think of a good trivia for him? Like something Kubo mentioned about Ikkaku in one of his interviews? Something form the databooks that's not included in the article? I added what he said about the 7th division in the Bleach bootleg, can't you guys think of trivia along the same vain? Or do you guys actually find one or more of the above trivia actually useful and not junk. [[User:Tinni|Tinni]] 01:31, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
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== Master Spearman ==
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Master Spearman: Ikkaku's zanpakutō is a spear-type weapon while in Shikai form, Ikkaku uses it perfectly against other sword-type weapons.
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Is this section necessary? Can't we put it in under his Master Swordsmanship Specialist section? --[[User:Shinitenshi|Shinitenshi]] 05:33, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
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I agree. I think it should be something along those linse. I replied with a very similar answer in Lisas forum. [[User:Minato88|Minato88]] 05:36, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
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It will be handled when the article is properly referenced and maintenanced which i am currently in the middle of doing. Think you.[[User:Salubri|Salubri]] 07:11, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
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== Hōzukimaru Shikai ==
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Isn't Hōzukimaru actually Sansetsukon rather than spear (as he noted in anime ep.26)? [[User:Firelake|Firelake]] 16:35, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
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:Yes. Hozukimaru is called a Sansetsukon in its Shikai Special ability. [[User:Minato88|Minato88]] 18:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
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== New Profile Picture ==
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[[File:Ikkaku 216-194.jpg|thumb|Ikkaku from episode 216]] I know that the vast majorities of character articles are having their profile pictures updated...so I thought that we might want to bring in the Ikkaku article on this too. I may not be an administrator, but I would like to propose this image Mr. N 01:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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I'm not saying no, but where's that angle from in the episode? I mean, for this shot you got. [[User:Arrancar109|Arrancar109]] 01:31, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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While I agree that Ikkaku & Yumichika (for that matter deserve) new pics, I do not like this example pic. Surely there has to be a better pic of him from one of the newer episodes. [[User:Minato88|Minato88]] 01:38, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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My only quarrel with this is that it looks like it's from an angle above Ikkaku's head (hence the heightened shoulders); otherwise, I'd say it's a good shot. I think Yumichika's was updated awhile ago. I think it's from the Arrancar arc though. Still, I'm fine with Yumichika's, but if a better one is found, we can use it. However, it depends on what the replacement shot for it would look like. [[User:Arrancar109|Arrancar109]] 01:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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I see. The angle is the problem...Well, I have three other possibilities that are a bit better angled (they are from the Zanpakutō Unknown Tales Arc though). I apologize if I am putting up too many different shots (just trying to be helpful) Mr. N 02:44, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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[[File:Ikkaku 242-296.jpg|thumb|left|Ikkaku from episode 242]][[File:Ikkaku 237-122.jpg|thumb|Ikkaku from episode 237]][[File:Ikkaku 237-123.jpg|thumb|Ikkaku from episode 237, directly looking forward]]
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Lower right. The one with him looking forward. Good angle, shows his habit of carrying a sword, and a normal lighting. I think most characters should be in normal lighting as well. The only exception is most of the Zanpakuto Spirits, since they seem to have a weird habit of only attacking at night. Anyway, yes, #3: Ikkaku with sword, looking forward. [[User:Arrancar109|Arrancar109]] 02:48, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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I agree. That one's quite nice. [[User:Twocents|Twocents]] 02:53, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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I guess i'll make it unanimous, I like number three. [[User:Minato88|Minato88]] 02:59, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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Alrighty, I put it up. Thanks for the finds, dude. [[User:Arrancar109|Arrancar109]] 03:02, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
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I think this is better. --|[[User:WhiteArmor|<span style="color: #4682B4;">'''WhiteArmor'''</span>]]|[[User talk:WhiteArmor|<span style="font-size:85%; font-family: Didot; color: #4682B4">(Talk)</span>]]|-- 05:07, April 28, 2010 (UTC)[[Image:Ikkaku_vs_Poww.png|thumb|180px|left|From 218]]
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== Hōzukimaru Bankai ==
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I have a question about Ikkaku and his Bankai. When Ichigo and Renji use Bankai their outfuts undergo a change. Thus far, they are the only two Shinigami who have been confirmed to do this. Yet in the second movie, Ikkaku used Bankai and his shirt disappeared. In the Anime and Manga his shirt had already been destroyed so its impossible to compare. Still, should it be noted in his power and abilities section under Bankai that his outfit undergoes a change or should we wait until later as I feel he will once again use his Bankai. [[User:Minato88|<span style="color: #FFD700;">'''Minato'''</span>]] 00:08, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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No because Ikkaku's bankai doesnt add anything. Renji's is certain but Ikkaku has to date only used it once in the manga. He doesn't gain any additional clothing like renji does. As you have already stated he has already lost his shirt previous to its use as its a last resort. Also Movies aren't canon anyhow. [[User:Salubri|<font color="cyan" size="2px">Salubri</font>]] 00:24, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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Okay thanks for the response. I'll wait until there is Manga and Anime based evidence to mention that Ikkaku's appearence undergoes a change. [[User:Minato88|<span style="color: #FFD700;">'''Minato'''</span>]] 00:35, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
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==Birthday Gift for Yachiru==
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I've removed the bit saying he turned Yachiru's scabbard into a scooter for her birthday, as I can't find a source for it. If anyone can find a source, please include a reference with it next time, or else will just be removed again, as per the manual of style. --[[User:Yyp|<span style="color: #4CC552;">'''Yyp'''</span>]] [[w:c:Bleach:User talk:Yyp|<span style="font-size:95%; font-family: courier new; color: #4CC552;">(Talk)</span>]] 14:15, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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Just when I delete the collection of colourful bleach chapters I was sharing online, you bring up an issue regarding it. Anyway, Bleach Bootleg pages 52-53 has the colourful bleach chapter that shows Byakuya discovering the Women's Association base in his room. In the chapter Yachiru is riding around on a scooter that Ikkaku made for her birthday. It is not her zanpakuto scabbard or some such nonsense. I mean the line you removed did read: "add wheels to her Zanpakutō's scabbard, allowing her to run with it without it being dragged behind her and '''turned it into a scooter''' for her birthday." -.- [[User:Tinni|<span style="color: #DA70D6;">'''Tinni'''</span>]] [[w:c:Bleach:User talk:Tinni|<span style="font-size:95%; font-family: courier new; color: #DA70D6">(Talk)</span>]] 14:20, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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:Thanks. --[[User:Yyp|<span style="color: #4CC552;">'''Yyp'''</span>]] [[w:c:Bleach:User talk:Yyp|<span style="font-size:95%; font-family: courier new; color: #4CC552;">(Talk)</span>]] 14:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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it is stated that ikkaku is Left handed ''and'' ambidextrous!! unless i'm completely wrong i thought you either had a particular favoured hand OR were ambidextrous, as it means being proficient with both hands??? [[User:Nick D Wolfwood|Nick D Wolfwood]] 16:17, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
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nothing is mentioned of Ikkaku sparring with the 11th squad members and Ichigo turning up to fight him before running away form Zaraki. I don't want to put it there as i don't have the reference.
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also the grammar in this article is pretty bad. I'm going through to correct various sentences that don't make sense grammatically. Please let me know if this is OK. [[User:Nick D Wolfwood|Nick D Wolfwood]] 16:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you for you help with the grammer of the article. It is much appreciated. Also, the reference you are looking for is Chapter 180[http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/180/07/]. Please refer to the [[Bleach_Wiki:About#Source_Referencing|Manual of Styles]] on how to reference if you do not already know how. Thank you. [[User:Tinni|<span style="color: #DA70D6;">'''Tinni'''</span>]] [[w:c:Bleach:User talk:Tinni|<span style="font-size:95%; font-family: courier new; color: #DA70D6">(Talk)</span>]] 17:09, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
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Ikkaku Should have immensive spiritual power because he is captain level as most of the time it says if they found out about his bankai they would promote him Aka: his bankai grants him even more raietsu than he normally has. ikkaku should have bigger raietsu as he is captain level and has bankai i reccomend putting him as immensive {{unsigned|Bankai Ichigo}}
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Where is it ever said that he was captain-level? Having a bankai makes you powerful as it is a rare accomplishment and it has the capability of putting you on par with a captain, allowing one to hold there own against one. He has never fought a captain, has never beaten a captain and he is only captain-level in that he has attained bankai. But that doesn't signify him having reiatsu that can rival a captains. [[User:Salubri|<font color="4169E1" size="2px">'''Salubri'''</font>]] [[User talk:Salubri|<font color="4169E1" size="2px">('''Talk''')</font>]] 17:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
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Ikkaku clearly said to renji if they found out about his bankai to renji they would promote him to captain and he wouldnt be in the 11 squad anymore so he can probbly beat people like hitsugaya or mayuri in 1vs1 by overpowering them with raietsu as most of the time he has showen as a raietsu beast when he uses his bankai {{unsigned|Bankai Ichigo}}
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:Ikkaku is making an assumption, one which looks silly given that Renji, whose Bankai is well known about among the Shinigami, has not been made a captain. And it is speculation at best to say that Ikkaku could defeat Hitsugaya/Mayuri. And we do not engage in speculation on the articles. But even if he was, it would not make him "Immensive", or even "Immense". The two of them are at the top of the "High" level, but we cannot say they are "Great" yet, as we have no prove of it. Btw, the [[Reiryoku]] page has clear definitions of the power levels. Also, please remember to sign your posts. --[[User:Yyp|<span style="color: #4CC552;">'''Yyp'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Yyp|<span style="color: #4CC552;">('''Talk''')</span>]]</sup> 17:52, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
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:First you need to sign your posts. Secondly what he says is that he has told no one but Renji and Ikkaku that he has bankai because there would be others telling him he should become a captain just as Renji was. That does not mean he is qualified to be one just that there maybe those that assume that he should because there are vacancies. Also Renji asked him because he could use bankai, that alone doesn't make someone a captain nor does it mean they are comparable to a captain. Renji's use of bankai against Byakuya proved that much and as i stated. Ikkaku has never faced a captain, and he has never beaten a captain or anyone of that level. Your stating personal assumptions not based on fact. The fact is he is neither on the level of Hitsugaya who in fact is one of the strongest captains possessing the strongest ice-zanpakuto in soul society (a issue not really important based on the fact that to be a captain is to possess another level of power anyhow). He isn't even on the level of Mayuri who is not the greatest of combatants, but still is a captain, leagues above Ikkaku. There is no proof to your claim, until Ikkaku either is a captain or has faced and beaten one, there really is no argument. Speculation on what you think he can do is not proof of ability beyond what is shown. What is shown is that he is a capable fighter of the highest level as of lieutenant level, who happens to have bankai that canonically to date has only been used once in the manga. Also in his fight vs. poww its even stated that his bankai could have saved him and got him a win but the it is not even on the same level as comparable a captains. [[User:Salubri|<font color="4169E1" size="2px">'''Salubri'''</font>]] [[User talk:Salubri|<font color="4169E1" size="2px">('''Talk''')</font>]] 18:02, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
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I've checking through this articvle and there is nothing on his beast swords appearances. i know there aren't any but he was attacked by the tentacle toju and was fighting the gang with HIsagi, Iba and Kira at least. i haven't watched the rest of the best sword episodes so i'm unsure if he has anymore appearances [[User:Nick D Wolfwood|Nick D Wolfwood]] 11:19, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

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Hair

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could someone mention that in the last episode that when he remove the wig a single strand of hair appeared, showing that he is not bald and does shave his head Fawcettp 14:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought that the single strand of hair was left over from the wig, as Yumichika had glued it to his head and he had to rip it off. Also, wasn't that a filler episode? They don't fully count as facts, do they? Akami.40 14:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Fillers are included as just as much as anything else manga and anime or sources and count toward the series canon. Anything outside of those two mediums such as movies, and games are not considered facts but are included on the site more commonly under appearance in other media.Salubri 14:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Anime Filler is not canon, no matter what the people who run this wiki want us to believe. Only the manga is canon. There are too many discrepancies between the anime and the manga for both to be canon, and since the manga is the original source, only it is canon. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that, or why you admins feel the need to try to shove obviously non-canon anime material down our throats as canon. Very few people who know about Bleach agree with saying that Anime filler is canon, which is one of the main reasons that a lot of people on respected Bleach forums the internet over don't consider this wiki to be a valid source of information regarding Bleach. Any site that considers Amagai to be a canon captain, and lists Seigen Suzunami in their list of captains is a joke. I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but really, why do you cling to the preposterous notion that anything other than the manga is canon? It just makes this wiki look bad in the eyes of most Bleach fans. It wouldn't take that much work to just have a little message on non-manga pages that says "This material is not in the manga,and is considered non-canon by most Bleach fans". I don't understand why you think it's a good idea to continue this line of reasoning when it's obvious to anyone who knows Bleach that anime filler is not canon. It's infuriating, and inexplicable to me that you refuse to change in this regard, and it's the reason that I tell people not to use this site as a source. Saying that anime filler is canon puts the accuracy of all of the information here in doubt. CorpusDei 05:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is a prime example of someone not knowing what they are talking about. No one ever said that anime was the main source but its where the good pictures come from its where the coloration for the characters come from its where anything that can be visually discernible comes from. Manga is the official canon as its written and drawn by Kubo but anime has its position as a secondary source for the previous reasons as well as the fact that it follows most the manga with the exception of filler arcs which aren't canon at all. Why your even a member of this wiki i dont understand as your not basing any of your argument on facts that can be shown on this site. No one ever said amagai was a manga based captain and in fact it clearly states in anime only. Segian is listed as a captain in game only. If these so called respected forums and other places on the internet are so informative it would be funny considering i have never seen not one one site that has one iota of informative bit of info on bleach. You interject yourself into a situational conversation, and think you know what your talking about. What i was referring to is that the information on fillers are placed in the site just as all things related to bleach but it does not constitute actual canon. So know what your talking about on and off the site as you seem inclined to express your one sided and uninformed opinion about stuff you dont know about and if it continues to be a problem do us all a favor and leave. Go back to your respected forums where you can speculate your fan fiction and debate to depth with no capability of actual source reference. Im quite pissed off that you would have the nerve to get on here and talk about this site as if what your saying made any sense or possessed any fact when you apparently don't look into any of what you seem to think you know.Salubri 07:30, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The words canon and filler never appear on any page of this wiki. In your above message you said "Fillers...count towards the series canon". I rest my case. You can be self righteous about how important you think this wiki is all you want, the fact is that until you make a clear distinction between canon and filler, this site is of dubious trustworthiness. CorpusDei 15:36, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Surely though, a single joke from a non-manga filler can hardly be used as proof that Ikakku shaves/is bald. Seems to me to be a bit iffy. BollyW 07:57, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Oh this is just ridiculous. His description stays a bald. He obviously is, cause every time someone even mentions the word bald he flies off the handle. Minato88 18:19, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The strand of hair was from the wig, which had been glued to his head. He's bald. Ranting and raving about filler aside thats the end of it.

But on the rants of canon or non-canon. No abilities or traits shown in the filler arcs are any different from how a character normally behaves in the non-filler arcs of the anime. Ichigo didn't use any abilities he didn't already show or hint at in the other arcs in the New Captain, Zanpakto Unknown Tales arcs. So maybe a couple of characters are invented and plotline is made up, but no one counts that as canon anyway. —This unsigned comment is by Licourtrix (talkcontribs) 02:12, December 8, 2009. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

OK this is ridiculous. Seriously it was Anime-Only. He always gets mad when anyone says anything about his baldness and it WAS ONE ONE!! hair. I am marking this discussion closed. No way is it being changed. If u want to make a note below asking to put it in the Trivia, but I would call that junk and i'm sure others here would as well. Minato 02:19, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Trivia section clean-up

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Removed trivia

  • Ikkaku does not wish to have anyone know of his Bankai, as he wishes to fight and die under Kenpachi's command. He knows that if anyone were to know of his Bankai, he would most likely be promoted to Captain, and thus, no longer be under Kenpachi's command.
  • Ikkaku has only been shown using Bankai one time within the manga and anime; it is only shown once again in the second movie (Bleach: The DiamondDust Rebellion), and then used by Hōzukimaru himself in the Zanpakutō Unknown Tales Arc.
  • The two losses Ikkaku has suffered in battle are a direct result of his hesitation to release his Bankai, as seen during his battle against Ichigo and Poww.
  • Ikkaku is also the only member of the 11th Division known to achieve Bankai, as even his Captain, Kenpachi Zaraki has not yet achieved it (nor even knows his sword's name). Yachiru is never shown using her sword so the extent of her abilities are unknown.
  • During episode 63 of the series, when Ichigo decides to have another friendly fight with Ikkaku (with wooden swords), there is a scar that runs down the left side of Ikkaku's chest. This was a serious injury caused by Ichigo during their battle, and since then, it has never fully healed. This scar is then shown in the rest of his appearances where he is bare-chested, including but not limited to his fight with Edrad Liones, when he uses his Bankai, and episode 228. It even appears in most video games that feature his Bankai. This makes him the first character to obtain a permanent scar from a fight with Ichigo, the second being Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez.

Can anyone please explain to me, how ANY of the above triva is anything but junk? The a lot of it is should be obvious from reading the article and the rest are of limited appeal at best. I am not even happy with the two trivia I left on his page! Can't anyone think of a good trivia for him? Like something Kubo mentioned about Ikkaku in one of his interviews? Something form the databooks that's not included in the article? I added what he said about the 7th division in the Bleach bootleg, can't you guys think of trivia along the same vain? Or do you guys actually find one or more of the above trivia actually useful and not junk. Tinni 01:31, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Master Spearman

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Master Spearman: Ikkaku's zanpakutō is a spear-type weapon while in Shikai form, Ikkaku uses it perfectly against other sword-type weapons.

Is this section necessary? Can't we put it in under his Master Swordsmanship Specialist section? --Shinitenshi 05:33, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I think it should be something along those linse. I replied with a very similar answer in Lisas forum. Minato88 05:36, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

It will be handled when the article is properly referenced and maintenanced which i am currently in the middle of doing. Think you.Salubri 07:11, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hōzukimaru Shikai

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Isn't Hōzukimaru actually Sansetsukon rather than spear (as he noted in anime ep.26)? Firelake 16:35, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Hozukimaru is called a Sansetsukon in its Shikai Special ability. Minato88 18:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

New Profile Picture

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Ikkaku from episode 216

I know that the vast majorities of character articles are having their profile pictures updated...so I thought that we might want to bring in the Ikkaku article on this too. I may not be an administrator, but I would like to propose this image Mr. N 01:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying no, but where's that angle from in the episode? I mean, for this shot you got. Arrancar109 01:31, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

While I agree that Ikkaku & Yumichika (for that matter deserve) new pics, I do not like this example pic. Surely there has to be a better pic of him from one of the newer episodes. Minato88 01:38, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

My only quarrel with this is that it looks like it's from an angle above Ikkaku's head (hence the heightened shoulders); otherwise, I'd say it's a good shot. I think Yumichika's was updated awhile ago. I think it's from the Arrancar arc though. Still, I'm fine with Yumichika's, but if a better one is found, we can use it. However, it depends on what the replacement shot for it would look like. Arrancar109 01:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I see. The angle is the problem...Well, I have three other possibilities that are a bit better angled (they are from the Zanpakutō Unknown Tales Arc though). I apologize if I am putting up too many different shots (just trying to be helpful) Mr. N 02:44, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

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Ikkaku from episode 242

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Ikkaku from episode 237

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Ikkaku from episode 237, directly looking forward

Lower right. The one with him looking forward. Good angle, shows his habit of carrying a sword, and a normal lighting. I think most characters should be in normal lighting as well. The only exception is most of the Zanpakuto Spirits, since they seem to have a weird habit of only attacking at night. Anyway, yes, #3: Ikkaku with sword, looking forward. Arrancar109 02:48, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. That one's quite nice. Twocents 02:53, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I guess i'll make it unanimous, I like number three. Minato88 02:59, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty, I put it up. Thanks for the finds, dude. Arrancar109 03:02, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I think this is better. --|WhiteArmor|(Talk)|-- 05:07, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

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Hōzukimaru Bankai

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I have a question about Ikkaku and his Bankai. When Ichigo and Renji use Bankai their outfuts undergo a change. Thus far, they are the only two Shinigami who have been confirmed to do this. Yet in the second movie, Ikkaku used Bankai and his shirt disappeared. In the Anime and Manga his shirt had already been destroyed so its impossible to compare. Still, should it be noted in his power and abilities section under Bankai that his outfit undergoes a change or should we wait until later as I feel he will once again use his Bankai. Minato 00:08, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

No because Ikkaku's bankai doesnt add anything. Renji's is certain but Ikkaku has to date only used it once in the manga. He doesn't gain any additional clothing like renji does. As you have already stated he has already lost his shirt previous to its use as its a last resort. Also Movies aren't canon anyhow. Salubri 00:24, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Okay thanks for the response. I'll wait until there is Manga and Anime based evidence to mention that Ikkaku's appearence undergoes a change. Minato 00:35, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Birthday Gift for Yachiru

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I've removed the bit saying he turned Yachiru's scabbard into a scooter for her birthday, as I can't find a source for it. If anyone can find a source, please include a reference with it next time, or else will just be removed again, as per the manual of style. --Yyp (Talk) 14:15, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Just when I delete the collection of colourful bleach chapters I was sharing online, you bring up an issue regarding it. Anyway, Bleach Bootleg pages 52-53 has the colourful bleach chapter that shows Byakuya discovering the Women's Association base in his room. In the chapter Yachiru is riding around on a scooter that Ikkaku made for her birthday. It is not her zanpakuto scabbard or some such nonsense. I mean the line you removed did read: "add wheels to her Zanpakutō's scabbard, allowing her to run with it without it being dragged behind her and turned it into a scooter for her birthday." -.- Tinni (Talk) 14:20, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. --Yyp (Talk) 14:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Not Left Handed

it is stated that ikkaku is Left handed and ambidextrous!! unless i'm completely wrong i thought you either had a particular favoured hand OR were ambidextrous, as it means being proficient with both hands??? Nick D Wolfwood 16:17, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ikkaku's sparring after soul society

nothing is mentioned of Ikkaku sparring with the 11th squad members and Ichigo turning up to fight him before running away form Zaraki. I don't want to put it there as i don't have the reference.

also the grammar in this article is pretty bad. I'm going through to correct various sentences that don't make sense grammatically. Please let me know if this is OK. Nick D Wolfwood 16:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for you help with the grammer of the article. It is much appreciated. Also, the reference you are looking for is Chapter 180[1]. Please refer to the Manual of Styles on how to reference if you do not already know how. Thank you. Tinni (Talk) 17:09, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Raietsu

Ikkaku Should have immensive spiritual power because he is captain level as most of the time it says if they found out about his bankai they would promote him Aka: his bankai grants him even more raietsu than he normally has. ikkaku should have bigger raietsu as he is captain level and has bankai i reccomend putting him as immensive —This unsigned comment is by Bankai Ichigo (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Where is it ever said that he was captain-level? Having a bankai makes you powerful as it is a rare accomplishment and it has the capability of putting you on par with a captain, allowing one to hold there own against one. He has never fought a captain, has never beaten a captain and he is only captain-level in that he has attained bankai. But that doesn't signify him having reiatsu that can rival a captains. Salubri (Talk) 17:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ikkaku clearly said to renji if they found out about his bankai to renji they would promote him to captain and he wouldnt be in the 11 squad anymore so he can probbly beat people like hitsugaya or mayuri in 1vs1 by overpowering them with raietsu as most of the time he has showen as a raietsu beast when he uses his bankai —This unsigned comment is by Bankai Ichigo (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Ikkaku is making an assumption, one which looks silly given that Renji, whose Bankai is well known about among the Shinigami, has not been made a captain. And it is speculation at best to say that Ikkaku could defeat Hitsugaya/Mayuri. And we do not engage in speculation on the articles. But even if he was, it would not make him "Immensive", or even "Immense". The two of them are at the top of the "High" level, but we cannot say they are "Great" yet, as we have no prove of it. Btw, the Reiryoku page has clear definitions of the power levels. Also, please remember to sign your posts. --Yyp (Talk) 17:52, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
First you need to sign your posts. Secondly what he says is that he has told no one but Renji and Ikkaku that he has bankai because there would be others telling him he should become a captain just as Renji was. That does not mean he is qualified to be one just that there maybe those that assume that he should because there are vacancies. Also Renji asked him because he could use bankai, that alone doesn't make someone a captain nor does it mean they are comparable to a captain. Renji's use of bankai against Byakuya proved that much and as i stated. Ikkaku has never faced a captain, and he has never beaten a captain or anyone of that level. Your stating personal assumptions not based on fact. The fact is he is neither on the level of Hitsugaya who in fact is one of the strongest captains possessing the strongest ice-zanpakuto in soul society (a issue not really important based on the fact that to be a captain is to possess another level of power anyhow). He isn't even on the level of Mayuri who is not the greatest of combatants, but still is a captain, leagues above Ikkaku. There is no proof to your claim, until Ikkaku either is a captain or has faced and beaten one, there really is no argument. Speculation on what you think he can do is not proof of ability beyond what is shown. What is shown is that he is a capable fighter of the highest level as of lieutenant level, who happens to have bankai that canonically to date has only been used once in the manga. Also in his fight vs. poww its even stated that his bankai could have saved him and got him a win but the it is not even on the same level as comparable a captains. Salubri (Talk) 18:02, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Beast Swords

I've checking through this articvle and there is nothing on his beast swords appearances. i know there aren't any but he was attacked by the tentacle toju and was fighting the gang with HIsagi, Iba and Kira at least. i haven't watched the rest of the best sword episodes so i'm unsure if he has anymore appearances Nick D Wolfwood 11:19, April 9, 2010 (UTC)